Hey Antonio Castellaneta, I am glad it resonated deeply and you were able to tune in with the Post, it is a pleasure having you and wishing you an amazing weekend!!
Antonio liked the underlying feeling and mystery .. I also gave the sense that I’ve you wrote a poem from this we would? you would, find another layer, another to express these truths..
Thank you, Vivien. I think some truths keep changing form because no single language can hold them completely. We just keep circling closer to them in different ways.
Maybe evolution didn’t make us more human only more distracted from what being human originally felt like. We learned how to move faster consume more and think endlessly yet somehow became strangers to stillness, silence and even ourselves. Sometimes I wonder… if progress keeps removing the very things that once made life feel real, is it still evolution or just a more sophisticated form of emptiness ?
What interests me is how often humans interpret familiarity as evidence of something ancient or transcendent.
Sometimes the feeling of “remembering” may simply be what deep biological compatibility feels like from the inside, which raises a different question entirely.
Hi, Easy Weezy 😊. In my view, what feels like remembering is not a return to something left behind, but a quiet recognition of the home our hearts have always been searching for.
Hey There, it is a pleasure having you drop by and i hope you enjoyed reading as your view is really beautiful and poetic, it looks like what @Vivien Beere was talking about earlier as to how it can be framed in a differently manner and this reframing is really soothing and poetic, Once again thank you very much and have a beautiful day!!
Very good essay Easy Weezy. You set out arguments that contemporary psychology needs to take cognisance of. Not everything can be reduced to positivist scientific method! Holding several impossible things in mind before breakfast is, as The White Queen in Wonderland said, not only possible but likely desirable. Whoops that’s what I said!
Hahaha I am glad you enjoyed reading mate and yea at the moment Not everything can be reduced to positivist scientific method although science does have a large role to play. Hope it made breakfast more enjoyable also. Have a good one mate!!
Hey Lawrence, How is it going? appreciate you reading as well as your comment and to your question my answer would be depends on your definition of forward as to the example of if you have ever tried walking backwards?
If you can see my face saying this you'd understand there's no hostility here :D BUT This was a cock tease. You abused the power of line breaks and italics so much, that it lost meaning half-way through. As for the argument, if we can call it that, you just asserted that something feels strangely familiar and that Plato's world of forms would explain it. I'm not buying this one bit :D This 'familiarity' can be triggered by activating certain parts of the brain. Other parts make all kinds of computations that are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self. When you take these facts seriously, the idea of a regression to prior states becomes implausible. But in any case, this was a fun exercise so thank you.
Hey Abisi, Its a pleasure having you take the time to read and do appreciate your take. LMAO i guess line breaks and italics are having that conversation right now with the substack team lol and well one would wonder as to your point why this kinds of computations that are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self?
Well as to your point you said some parts of the brain brings about the familiarity and to me i took it as meaning the connections in the brain to birth such computation so i ask why do you think they are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self since some parts are already activated?
A lot of what the brain does has no direct connection to Broca's area (the chunk of brain that can generate outward speech or writing), so a lot happens in the brain that is unknown to the speaker and can't be reported.
Well that is agreed as the science of studying the brain is relatively new and hopefully it gets better as time proceeds and just maybe most of the claims the mystics or people of old said might actually become more pragmatic as we are learning already. Appreciate you mate!!
Okay I'm still lost in the weeds here but I'll try to explain myself generally and hope it answers your question :D I was trying to imply that the sense of returning to a place or 'remembering' knowledge is just a matter of networks in the brain connecting momentarily. I contend that these networks work independently most of the time, but that they connect occasionally. For instance, the default mode network (DMN) gives us our sense of being a distinct self, and Heschl's gyrus generates much of or inner speech; thee activity here is usually separate from that of a bunch of neurons working in the right hemisphere and the the lower structures (basal ganglia and cerebellum). So, one can imagine that when these mostly isolated activity patterns connect, the corresponding experience has a special character and a familiarity to it.
Hey Abisi, Appreciate you taking the time to explain more. well these does seem to have some explanation of such effects like Deja Vu which that is a class of its own and to your point synesthesia is an example and for some does parts are not separate while regarding the idea behind the article, i would say it is not just from people to person rather more collective in the sense of how inventions arises and scales.
I’m curious here . Do you mean to say regression is impossible? I’ve had clients in mildly altered states experience events that appear to replicate what would be typical of a much younger child, complete with sensory experience interpreted differently than their conscious adult self would normally do. If that is so and I haven’t spent 40 years misinterpreting what my clients’ so often did, then how is this different in principle from regression to former known ways of being as suggested here e.g. the hand knowing how to drum, the body knowing how to move in water etc?
Or if you mean there's hard-wired cognitive biases at birth, then yes, that too is real. It's just not plausible to say we can regress to some Homo erectus state of being. Even if the states are similar, we're still doing the homo sapiens version of it. That's not regression. That's just moving within the range of possible human experience. But in any case, the thing I'm most skeptical of is Plato's world of forms. It's just a human abstraction.
Of course not regression to homoerectus but a homosapiens version of it, same with other life forms! Aristotle disagreed with Plato too so the stories we tell to make sense of experience are always going to differ ..
I thought the article was talking about prior states across human evolution not an individual lifespan. I found it so vague and confusing that I'm now not even sure about that :D In any case, I don't think regression to brain states instantiated in childhood is impossible. I've actually experienced such states myself. Even simple episodic memory works that way to some extent.
I liked the moments where the text stopped explaining and just stayed near the feeling itself.
That sense that sometimes we don’t really “learn” certain things, we recognize them somewhere deeper first.
The part about rhythm and the body especially stayed with me.
Hey Antonio Castellaneta, I am glad it resonated deeply and you were able to tune in with the Post, it is a pleasure having you and wishing you an amazing weekend!!
Antonio liked the underlying feeling and mystery .. I also gave the sense that I’ve you wrote a poem from this we would? you would, find another layer, another to express these truths..
Yes Vivien i do agree with you on that as there would be various variations to capture this. Appreciate you mate!!
Thank you, Vivien. I think some truths keep changing form because no single language can hold them completely. We just keep circling closer to them in different ways.
Maybe evolution didn’t make us more human only more distracted from what being human originally felt like. We learned how to move faster consume more and think endlessly yet somehow became strangers to stillness, silence and even ourselves. Sometimes I wonder… if progress keeps removing the very things that once made life feel real, is it still evolution or just a more sophisticated form of emptiness ?
What interests me is how often humans interpret familiarity as evidence of something ancient or transcendent.
Sometimes the feeling of “remembering” may simply be what deep biological compatibility feels like from the inside, which raises a different question entirely.
Hey Frank, appreciate you dropping by as it really doeshancock said the humans species might be suffering from Amnesia
Hi, Easy Weezy 😊. In my view, what feels like remembering is not a return to something left behind, but a quiet recognition of the home our hearts have always been searching for.
Greetings,
Mate
Hey There, it is a pleasure having you drop by and i hope you enjoyed reading as your view is really beautiful and poetic, it looks like what @Vivien Beere was talking about earlier as to how it can be framed in a differently manner and this reframing is really soothing and poetic, Once again thank you very much and have a beautiful day!!
Very good essay Easy Weezy. You set out arguments that contemporary psychology needs to take cognisance of. Not everything can be reduced to positivist scientific method! Holding several impossible things in mind before breakfast is, as The White Queen in Wonderland said, not only possible but likely desirable. Whoops that’s what I said!
Hahaha I am glad you enjoyed reading mate and yea at the moment Not everything can be reduced to positivist scientific method although science does have a large role to play. Hope it made breakfast more enjoyable also. Have a good one mate!!
But we ate destined to evolve forward, arent we?
Hey Lawrence, How is it going? appreciate you reading as well as your comment and to your question my answer would be depends on your definition of forward as to the example of if you have ever tried walking backwards?
Of course but a rare thing to do
Yes mate such as great inventions of any kind
👌🏽👌🏽
Hey Uma, Thanks for stopping by and do hope you enjoyed reading. Have a good one!!
Yep 👍
If you can see my face saying this you'd understand there's no hostility here :D BUT This was a cock tease. You abused the power of line breaks and italics so much, that it lost meaning half-way through. As for the argument, if we can call it that, you just asserted that something feels strangely familiar and that Plato's world of forms would explain it. I'm not buying this one bit :D This 'familiarity' can be triggered by activating certain parts of the brain. Other parts make all kinds of computations that are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self. When you take these facts seriously, the idea of a regression to prior states becomes implausible. But in any case, this was a fun exercise so thank you.
Hey Abisi, Its a pleasure having you take the time to read and do appreciate your take. LMAO i guess line breaks and italics are having that conversation right now with the substack team lol and well one would wonder as to your point why this kinds of computations that are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self?
Have a beautiful weekend mate!!
I don't understand the question but I like your vibe :D Explain if you feel like it
Well as to your point you said some parts of the brain brings about the familiarity and to me i took it as meaning the connections in the brain to birth such computation so i ask why do you think they are inaccessible to the awareness that can speak and has a sense of self since some parts are already activated?
A lot of what the brain does has no direct connection to Broca's area (the chunk of brain that can generate outward speech or writing), so a lot happens in the brain that is unknown to the speaker and can't be reported.
Well that is agreed as the science of studying the brain is relatively new and hopefully it gets better as time proceeds and just maybe most of the claims the mystics or people of old said might actually become more pragmatic as we are learning already. Appreciate you mate!!
Okay I'm still lost in the weeds here but I'll try to explain myself generally and hope it answers your question :D I was trying to imply that the sense of returning to a place or 'remembering' knowledge is just a matter of networks in the brain connecting momentarily. I contend that these networks work independently most of the time, but that they connect occasionally. For instance, the default mode network (DMN) gives us our sense of being a distinct self, and Heschl's gyrus generates much of or inner speech; thee activity here is usually separate from that of a bunch of neurons working in the right hemisphere and the the lower structures (basal ganglia and cerebellum). So, one can imagine that when these mostly isolated activity patterns connect, the corresponding experience has a special character and a familiarity to it.
Hey Abisi, Appreciate you taking the time to explain more. well these does seem to have some explanation of such effects like Deja Vu which that is a class of its own and to your point synesthesia is an example and for some does parts are not separate while regarding the idea behind the article, i would say it is not just from people to person rather more collective in the sense of how inventions arises and scales.
I’m curious here . Do you mean to say regression is impossible? I’ve had clients in mildly altered states experience events that appear to replicate what would be typical of a much younger child, complete with sensory experience interpreted differently than their conscious adult self would normally do. If that is so and I haven’t spent 40 years misinterpreting what my clients’ so often did, then how is this different in principle from regression to former known ways of being as suggested here e.g. the hand knowing how to drum, the body knowing how to move in water etc?
Or if you mean there's hard-wired cognitive biases at birth, then yes, that too is real. It's just not plausible to say we can regress to some Homo erectus state of being. Even if the states are similar, we're still doing the homo sapiens version of it. That's not regression. That's just moving within the range of possible human experience. But in any case, the thing I'm most skeptical of is Plato's world of forms. It's just a human abstraction.
Of course not regression to homoerectus but a homosapiens version of it, same with other life forms! Aristotle disagreed with Plato too so the stories we tell to make sense of experience are always going to differ ..
I thought the article was talking about prior states across human evolution not an individual lifespan. I found it so vague and confusing that I'm now not even sure about that :D In any case, I don't think regression to brain states instantiated in childhood is impossible. I've actually experienced such states myself. Even simple episodic memory works that way to some extent.
Isn’t conscious awareness, in short, what you’ve been trying to say all along?
Hey Danijs, appreciate you dropping by and to your point i would say in my opinion awareness is a branch of consciousness.
It means a lot that you clarified it this way.
My pleasure and Honor Danijs. Do take care🙏🏾!!